Power Line links to a Vox interview of the editor of the Claremont Review of Books - Charles Kesler - by Sean Illing. My view is that it reads like a scholarly defender of populist nationalism being interviewed by a not-entirely-unreasonable progressive. Kesler is impressive, Illing isn’t repulsive, and their disagreements are civilized - I recommend it.
NB: Donald Trump was and is a populist nationalist.